Mail & EventsTheMailRoom Unless you prefer anonymity, I'll post your letters (in bold face) and my answers to them. For US readers, please tell me which wines you're not able to find. I may be able to help. February 18, 2008 Thanks for your advice about my reference to "hate" - it helps make me aware - no, reminds me - that Aussie humour doesn't work with Americans. (See earlier letter, below.) Cheers Hi David, Point well taken. In fact, when people ask me why I live in France, one of the reasons I give them -- and it's the truth -- is that the relationship to food and wine are so different here than in the United States. With the exception of certain small pockets of France, there's nothing snobby or pretentious about a sumptuous, long, well-lubricated meal. It's part of a life well lived, no matter what your social status. I think the only day we Americans have what would pass as a French Sunday lunch is Thanksgiving. No wonder it's my favorite holiday! February 9, 2008 Jackie, I loved your rant with regard to the tasting panel for Decanter. A similar panel did the same with Chateauneuf. John Livingstone-Learmonth wrote me that it's frustrating. By the way, you still have your notes to post on Chateauneuf. I like what I tasted from Baudry. Past bottles tasted of Alliet have been good, though polished. I missed tasting Joguet at the Salon. How are their wines now? Best, Me: Thanks, Lars. I simply don't understand those results. And some of the tasters are really qualified. Hello Jackie As someone who is wrapt in both of your books (recently discovered) and A seperate blog section on your website will allow bloggers to comment on your FF experiences as well as every thing else on this earth - it is not unusual for one blog comment to take on a life of its own.........159 responding comments taking the discussion to places that eventually become unrelated to the initial point. FrenchFeast is Jackie Friedrich personified - please keep it that way. Best wishes p.s. As one who lives on the other side of the world (Australia), sometimes when I read about your wonderful French wine and food experiences shared with such interesting people, I hate you. Me: David, thanks for this lovely email.I only wish you'd sent this to me ten days ago. You don't know how I've agonized over where to put the blog. The restructured site isn't 'live' yet so I've started switching things around. And I put all of FrenchFeast on the blog page. I may leave it there for now but I do like your point. Well, I can always change it and I'm always open to suggestions. In the meantime, might I suggest that rather than hating me, you get together with a bunch of friends, open some good bottles and make some simple, nice food? December 28, 2007: I just noticed that Terry Theise quoted part of the following email discussion in his German wine catalogue. The email back-and-forth took place almost two years ago. I was writing the Alsace chapter of The Wines of France and tasting Champagne samples. I need to point out that I was reading Terry’s catalogue on his Champagnes and the discussion started when I found I didn’t “get” what he said he “got” from one of the wines.) (I have cut a bit of the meandering.) Me: What's wrong with me? I've tasted two terrific Vilmart wines but only got faint wood in one and zero wood in the other (the '96 Cuvee Creation). I must say that I didn't get the smoky woodsiness you got tho I did get the lunar silvery aspect. TT: There's nothing wrong with you; I had two entirely different impressions of the last 2 Cuvée Creation `96I've tasted. Me: Care to share those impressions with me? TT: I thought one was spiky and unknit and the other was more seamless and more deeply fruity. The awkward one was at the winery last May; the good oneover here in late October. Me:The one I had was absolutely seamless, deeply fruity but also bracing, cut like a diamond, shimmering with vivacity. BTW, I think I may be going off the deep end right now with Deiss and Zind-Humbrecht! TT: Easy to see why. I had ZH's 2002 Goldert Muscat a few weeks ago and nearly wept, it was so beautiful. Me: But I'm getting worried about my Vilmart reactions. (Nothing unusual, I always question myself.) But I had a wonderful champagne -- although not as terroir-driven as the other cuvee I tasted -- and I didn't taste any wood. (I think Andrew Jefford questioned the use of oak combined with lack of malo. But you'll get no such complaints from me. Who is right? Is there a "right"?) TT: Rhetorical though your question was, I offer an answer nonetheless. And the answer is: NO. Me: You see, this is where we get into discussions of taste and it's valid, I think. After all, I've seen (famous wine couple) totally disagree about particular wines. TT: I like to think intelligent tasters of good will are able to agree on broad matters of aesthetic values even when they disagree about individual bottles. And I also hope people like you and I can discern the difference between a matter of toe-may-toe vs. toe-mah-toe and a more fundamental disagreement. I'd say if there's something illuminating in your complex responses to Vilmart, then do please share it with us. I like wines which evoke complex responses! Me: Well, I've polished off the Vilmart and am about to taste a Margaine rose. (You see, I DRINK all these champagnes.) TT: If it's the same degorgement I had last May you're gonna have the very sheen charmed off your cheeks by that wine. I tasted it and a nanosecond later I had a huge crush on it. Me: Well, I don't know if it was the same disgorgement or not. Drinking it was sheer pleasure -- and I have enuf left over for today. I think it's a really, really nice meal champagne. But it didn't do to me what the champagnes from Gimonnet, Vilmart and Larmandier-Bernier (to name just 3) do. TT: In my German catalog {note: TT now quotes part of this discussion in his German catalogue.} I quote David Schildknecht's definition of"perfect" as "better than which cannot be imagined". David's an armchair-philosopher and is interested in the ontological aspect of the question: how can we claim there is a "perfect" wine? I think his locution grounds it in a reasonable subjectivity. Me: Maybe it’s the laywer in me but "better than which cannot be imagined" is flawed: one can have a failure of imagination. Also, I'm not sure that "perfect" is the right word. It's like scoring 100. And it leaves out the very important factor of “context.” I might, for example, find that a certain Touraine Gamay was "perfect" for an autumn Sunday picnic with rillettes and goat cheese on a hill in Candes St Martin overlooking the confluence of the Loire and the Vienne. I think contex may be key, at least when you're using numbers or words like "perfect." is the Mass in B Minor 'perfect'? Is Van Gogh 'perfect'? TT: In a sense I don't care what we call it, and I agree with your wariness about "perfect". But maybe we have to find SOMETHING to call it, I think. And we have to describe it somehow, so that people have a chance to see what we mean. For me it is a quality of incandescence. And you're absolutely right, it isn't like comparing a 100-watt with a 60-watt bulb and saying the 100-watt is X-percent "better" or closer to some notion of perfection. It is something that suddenly blazes into light. Not sorry at all: this is the most fun I've had in weeks. December 24 - 28, 2007 Dear Jackie, Although I never tasted '97 Banneret, I like your choice for "Wine of the Year." Back in March, I met Madame Vidal by chance and later visited her at the domaine. I knew about this special barrel and the tragic story of her son. As regards destemming and old-fashioned wine-making (in the best sense), I would put Jean-Paul Versino at the top of my list. His wines have soul. They also have a similar blend as Banneret and Vieux Telegraphe, though the latter destems most grapes. Merry Xmas and Happy New Year! All the best, Me: I've thanked Lars personally. I've also asked him -- and now you -- to send comments/reactions concerning so-called traditional methods of vinification. Jackie, Thanks, too. I'm glad you posted it. It's a thorny issue to destem or not-to-destem. The other day, I read a review from Clive Coates in regard to Jayer. The latter supposedly felt it brought nothing to the finished wines. Then again, DRC ferments with whole bunches. In Chateauneuf, I can only think of a handful that still ferment this way: Versino, Banneret, Clos des Brusquieres, and Pegau. Even longtime traditionalists such as Clos des Papes (since '93 vintage), Le Vieux Donjon, or Mont-Olivet destem now. Although it's not my style and obvious self-promotion, would you add my last name and link http://moselwinemerchant.com/ to my earlier post. You never know if a viewer might have an interest in our portfolio. Sincerely, Me: What about Henri Bonneau? And are you really sure about Pegau? Hello John Sharpe Me: I've responded to John personally but would like to pass on something I said to him: I rarely get to the United States. If you and a group of friends would like me to put together a wine tour of the Loire or another French region for you, let me know. Dear Jackie Me: Everything to do with George Bush! December 13, 2007: Me: Does anyone have any ideas -- short of suggesting that Mr.Schmitt apply for an importers license? Though I think he secretly enjoys these little dramas. December 7, 2007: First, note to Ed Paladino: No, my publisher never told me about your kind offer to come to your shop for book signings. No surprise there. I've taken to referring to them as Flat Tire Press. But the point is moot as I haven't been to the USA in nine years! And now Lordtroglodyte follows up: Bon Jour, Thank you for your response. Now that I know you are there I will take some time and try and paint a bigger picture. I have spent three months living in Montsoreau and I find having a five liter box of white wine on hand perfect for an occasional glass and for cooking. We got a Brocard Chablis here in a three liter box many years ago but it was a one time thing. It seems to me it would be cheaper to ship BiB then bottles. I found my wines have still good acidity a month later. Between Pierre-Jacques Druet, The Cadys, the Baumards, the Joguets, etc, my baggage is spoken for. I was in Montsoreau April, May, and September. I was told July and August are the main concert seasons. I will return again in April and will try to return in July this year. With any luck the sewer will be hooked up by April. The lady at the campground charged four euros for a shower but the guy said just wait until she's not looking. Worked for me. I had wonderful meals at the Unicorn and next to the church in Candes. In Saumur this old cabbie from Paris has a 9 euro 90 meal. The house looks like the Bates motel. [an old brothel as legend has it] It is on the river just west of the main roundabout next to the cinema. Great local flavor but student grub. Not to be missed once and time may be running out. I find from Montsoreau my world goes toward Saumur and not Chinon. In reading your blog I sense you live more towards Chinon. I will return in April until mid May. I would love to meet you if you are in the area. The Sunday market in Montsoreau is wonderful for an Oyster breakfast by the river. I would also be up for any wine events/tastings if you would allow me tag along. Thanks, and talk to you later. Phil Me: Thanks, Phil. I've been asking around to see if any large-ish structures send BiBs to the USA. No responses as yet. Will keep you posted. I suspect panic about finishing Loire #2 will have set in by springtime so I'll be pretty much of a hermit. But you can always reach me here. December 2, 2007 Me: (For the purposes of clarification, I take the liberty of revealing Phil Ross’s various akas: Rossputin and Lordtroglodyte.) August 24, 2007 Many thanks for your help and for the help your site gives. Me:Here are twelve recommendations. Most of them will be in the 12 to 20 euro range, though domaines like Chateau la Colline may have entrée de gamme cuvees that cost less. Details on all of the recommended domaines -- as well as a slew of other possibilities -- are in my book, The Wines of France. Have you tried Amazon or WHSmith? Bergeracais: Bordelais: Bon voyage and happy tastings! August 2007 Responses to the news that there will be a new edition of the Loire book. I wake up on my birthday to find that you will have an updated "Loire" book published. One of my all-time favorite books. Wow! I guess it's happy birthday to me! Thanks for all your hard work. I keep both of your books with me everywhere I go and I give them as gifts. A huge fan. John-Ohio P.S. Glad you now have "high speed." You're going to love it. Me: I do love it (high speed) and thanks for your comment! On 8/08/07 4:38 PM, "Steven Lanum" wrote: Your latest book, in which I am still unearthing witty nuggets on a regular basis, will be with me in Paris for the month of October and will make the rounds of most of the wine shops recommended therein (plus La Cave Insolite, about which I have also heard good things). I look forward to many new discoveries. Cheers and good luck! --Steve Lanum Me: Steve, Thanks for the encouragement. A couple of comments: While waiting for the new version of the Loire book to come out, please check my Loire notes on my website. I must check out John's website. (I love his Rhone book.) Regarding payment, he said the same thing in the Circle of Wine Writers journal. The amount most of us authors get paid is distressingly low. We clearly wouldn't do what we do for anything but love. As I'm sure you know, the Cave Insolite is owned and run by Francois Chidaine and his wife. From Steve Two more things: I'm sure your readers would like to know, if such a thing can be predicted, when they might expect to see the new edition in print. I'll mark my calendar! Also, your site mentions that you offer to guide visitors on an afternoon's crawl through wine bars in Paris. Please let me know what that runs (for one or two people). And I hope YOU don't mind, but I recommend your book on a friend's website where I am the so-called wine columnist: http://www.blissfulkitchen.com/articles/article_naturalwines.html Me: I don't know if the Chidaines are the owners of the Paris shop. I was thinking of the shop in Touraine. The new Loire book probably won't be out for at least two years. But I'll keep readers up to date on my website. And, of course, you're free to ask questions. Unless you're a rock star or an oil magnate, the wine bar crawl is probably too expensive for one or two people. If you can put together a group of, say, six, however... And, please, keep telling people about the book as well as about my website. From Lars Carlberg:Jackie, I'm happy for you and will pass the word to friends who enjoyed reading your older edition. It seems you landed a good publisher, as well. No constraints, I assume. Suggestions? I don't really have any now. Besides, the Loire is not my expertise. I think it's a great opportunity, because the area is becoming more recognized and admired. Burgundy is too expensive. Bordeaux the same and more commercial. The Rhone has become somewhat popular. As in all regions, alcohol levels are on the rise and northern climes have a better chance with the onset of global warming. Best, June 2007 Me:Glad to have helped re the maps. I'm sorry I can't yet reproduce the hyper link. I'm learning. I'll get there soon -- I hope. May 2007 De : "Peter Brown" Dear Jacqueline, Though Ten Speed Press has done a good job for you I would comment that their UK agent has done a lousy marketing job. I'm an avid reader of all wine related information, scan various websites, read journals and I'd never seen a mention of your book here. I would have picked it out instantly as I've owned the Loire book since shortly after it was published. Anyway, I've got it now and I can see myself buying copies as presents for friends. Me: Thanks, Peter, for the encouraging words. And advance thanks for getting the word out. I'll send a copy of your e-mail to Ten Speed. I was amused to read the extensive quote on Joly from my Loire book in your post on Jancis's site. Jacqueline, Where in the world have I been! I own and regularly drink a few quality Loire Valley wines when I'm able to get them here in the midwest. Last week, having decided to make this year 2007, (the rest of the year anyway), my "year of the Loire" when drinking wine, I bought your "Wine & Food Guide..." I was blown away. After looking at it for only a half hour I decided to order 2 more copies for friends. Today at my office I received your "Wines of France..." Now somone is going to have to pick me up off of the floor. I can't wait to get home and spend time with it. I may just have to leave the office early! I read frequently but unfortunately for me, I've overlooked your writings until now. I just wanted to let you know how useful they will be and how much I'll be recommending your books and website to all my friends. I feel like I've just discovered gold in my backyard. Thank you for all your hard work. I intend to make the best use of it. Forget my "year of the Loire." Your books inspire me to spend a much, much longer time there. Sincerely, Me: Thank you, John. It's always heartening to hear from enthusiastic readers. Regarding the maps, I think the Poupon maps are the best but I'm not sure they're still available. You might try checking with the Atheneum book shop in Beaune. (Let me know if you need the address. But you should be able to get it on internet.) Also, I have a map sitting next to me that is pretty good. The information given is as follows: Atlas de la France Vinicole L. Larmat. 65, rue Montmartre, 75002 Paris. tel: (0)1.42.36.20.83. I don't know whether or not this address is still valid but, again, the internet should help. Your website is outstanding! It is such a pleasure to read for someone like me who has always loved the Loire, and I plan to very quickly a) get the book b) use your tasting notes extensively and c) take one of your tours. I live in London, so getting to Paris isn't a problem. Do you conduct your wine bar crawls on weekends? How much do you charge? There is only one wine merchant in London who gives the Loire the credit it deserves: its called RSJ (they have a French restaurant of the same name) and here is the website: http://www.rsj.uk.com/rsjretailintro.htm They invite growers from the region and hold tasting dinners - would be fantastic if you did one such in London. In fact, I'm going to suggest it to them. Cheers, ME: Many thanks Rajeev. The Loire book is a bit dated by now. I will probably be writing an updated version -- more on that when contracts are signed -- but, in the meantime, The Wines of France is pretty current with regard to producers, particularly when supplemented with info on this site. Re Tours (of wine regions), Tastings, Wine Bar Crawls: Nothing planned at the moment but, if you can get a group together, contact me and we can work out the details. Price will depend on many factors, eg how many you are, how many wines you want to taste, how many wine bars you want to visit, whether or not a meal should be included. So feel free to get back to me. Jacqueline, I have thoroughly enjoyed reading your Wine and Food Guide to the Loire as a reference in advance of a trip a group of us are taking to the region starting next week. I recognize that the edition I have was printed back in 97, and that some of the recommendations regarding restaurants might not apply today. After our group visit Domaine des Baumards next Thursday, I have booked us into Les Tonnelles - largely based on your positive comments and your inviting description of the town of Behuard. Just wondering if you've been there more recently and if you'd still recommend it? I also note that you didn't make any reference to restaurants or shops in the town of Saumur itself - where we are to be based (the Anne d'Anjou). Any suggestions? ( If you more important things to do with you time than respond to some fairly trivial questions I understand! In any event - I love your book and look forward to an updated edition soon!) Regards, Me: Thanks, Cathy. Let me take things point by point. First, Behuard is not a village but an island, an enchanted island. It's pretty much of a pilgrimage site for me.When I was doing my research in Anjou I always went there to chill out. March 2007 Me: Thanks Brian. I expect to see Guy and Annie Bossard in April. Happy to transmit the hugs! January 2007 Me:Mystery Reader, Reveal Thyself! Some very clever person -- with excellent taste -- has written a review of my book on Amazon. (The title is so good, I wish I'd thought of it myself.) It's signed "A Reader." I think I know who it is but, hey, why not reveal your identity? You'll probably find other dog lovers on this site, including yours truly. Hello--I am "A Reader" in San Francisco if that's the amazon.com review you are referring to. Every time I dip into the book I am delighted (as well as frustrated by what I'll never be able to find). Based on your recommendation I grabbed a bottle of 1997 Domaine Cady Cuvee Volupte last week ($40 here), and it was sublime. Last weekend I tasted all the 2005 Huet secs and demi-secs and they were otherworldly. Wish I could afford boatloads. And thanks for calling me clever! Me: Steve Lanum, I knew it was you! Clever is only part of it. For starters, your title (if memory serves, A Wine Guide Hater’s Guide to French Wine) is really brilliant. Sounds like you’re drinking some wonderful stuff. Don’t despair about the wines you think you won’t find. First, they may get to the west coast; second, you may get to France and taste them here. December 2006 Hi-- Cheers. --Steve Lanum (A:Hi Steve, Thanks for writing. When you refer to the wimpy description of my book I assume you’re referring to the paragraph that ends with the sophomoric advice to sit back with a glass of pweee fweeesay. I’m both pleased and chagrined to hear that. Pleased, because I HATE that paragraph too. Chagrined because I have been trying – obviously without success – to get the publisher to remove it. Moving on to hypernatural wines. I really don’t have a marked preference for them. I spend a lot of time on them because, though you’d never know it from most wine media in the US, it’s an extremely important trend. I also admire what motivates the winemakers in question. But this is a risky form of winemaking – possible problems include rapid oxidation, brettanomyces, refermentation in bottle and on and on. My hope is that these winemakers will keep their idealism but make less fragile wines. As for waterfall: mea culpa. It’s one of my biggest compliments. As for Kermit Lynch: it seems we have similar palates. I’m honored to include myself in that “club.” For the record, I knew and loved many of the producers in question before I learning that Kermit imported them. And I think he’d be the first to tell you that I turned him on to Bernard Baudry.) Mme Friedrich, While living in southern Belgium on a 5 year military assignment, I accidentally became acquainted with the wines of Loire when someone recommended I might enjoy a bottle of 1997 Françios Pinon Moelleux. Never a great admirer of white wines let alone white sweet wines, the wine was an awakening for me. From that point on I have had been infatuated by the Loire Valley and its wines. Part of that experience was coming across your book in a Belgium book shop. Now residing back in the US, when I am among friends who enjoy nice wines, they are often surprised and puzzled, when I tell them… the greatest wine experiences I’ve had are the wines of Loire and Alsace. Thanks for your book on the wines of Loire, I refer to it constantly. I’m waiting for an equally well written book on Alsace…and hoping it will be written by you. Regards, Dan (A: Dan, thanks for the lovely letter. Francois Pinon is, indeed, a wonderful winemaker -- and his wines offer some of the best values in Vouvray. You'll find him in my new book "The Wines of France" which updates my evaluations of the producers of the Loire. While I'm not planning a book specifically on Alsace, I do spend a lot of time there in "The Wines of France." Like you, I adore the wines from that often overlooked region. Some of the most brilliant and memorable wines I've ever tasted come from its Grand Cru vineyards. And let's hear it for sweet wines, too! I often think that people would fall in love with them if they actually tasted a good one -- just like you did. And they're so useful -- great as an aperitif, super with many, many savory dishes, sublime with lots of cheeses, and occasionally marry well with a desserts though I'm not a big fan of sweet on sweet.) testing, one two three... |
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